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There are certain rules in the world. One of them is that an armed attack upon the soil and people not your own is an act of war. For instance, Ecuador has pretty much told the Brits that if they enter their embassy to get back that Wiki-leaks dude, they will consider it an act of war.
It says something about our nation that Ecuador manages to be more bad ass and tough than America does when we aren’t just threatened with it, but it actually happens.
Apparently, on 9/11 this year, Muslims did riot and attack embassies and consuls of America in Egypt, Libya, Germany, and several other countries. It is, however, in Libya that the worst did happen. It seems, our Marines meant to guard the embassy were not given any bullets in their guns. The walls were breached, the location taken. Our ambassador, Christopher Stevens, was sexually assaulted, sodomized, shot, and set on fire. Pictures of this happening have been shown to the world at large. Some four other people, including one of the Marines, died as well.
This is, by Law, an act of war. Embassies are considered legal US soil. Ambassadors are given special status. To kill one is almost on the same level as killing a member of the Cabinet, if not the President himself. It would be like killing a Duke and/or Messenger in the old world. By Law, retributions must be made.
But the Law has been ignored.
Instead, our President. The Executor of the Law, has bent over and apologized to the Muslims who rioted. His official statement condemns the senseless violence. It speaks nothing or retribution or the evils done to those killed. One could be left to think that they had merely died as violently as if in their sleep.
Far worse is the response from those in our government stationed in Cairo:
“The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims. ā¦ We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.ā [Note: the linked press release has since been pulled ā ed.]
Because a bunch of Muslims were supposedly “insulted” by a movie made by an Egyptian currently living in the US. Of course, a seemingly random mob of angry people seems to have had rocket propelled grenades.
This movie is called something like “The Innocence of Muslims.” Of course, I’m not entirely sure I can find this film. I found some low grade movie by that name on YouTube. If that is the movie, well, it’s a low budget thing made by an Egyptian (possibly a Coptic Christian) revealing some of the pressure from his horrible treatment at the hands of Muslims.
But it is not an excuse for what has happened. Nor is it an acceptable reason to dodge what we should be doing now.
Which is answering the invocation of war. WE aided the Islamists in taking over. Now they have repaid our aid with rape and murder. The President, if he were to be truly worthy of the title, would strike back with terrible retribution against those that rose up and attack our nation all over the world. Because without retribution, they will learn that they can get away with it. And they will do it bigger, badder, and in more places.
To kneel is to show you are willing to take the yoke.
It is time we stood up, lest we fail in our duties to the dead. For the dead do not forgive the living their failures. They will linger and and bring ill. I call upon the President, before Gods and Men, to see that justice and retribution is done. For the failure to do so will fall upon his head. And when ill falls upon the ruler, it is the people he is supposed to serve and protect that suffer greatest.
I give praise to the Gods and Goddesses of War, that their altars might be filled with the offerings of our people giving them the bodies and blood of our enemies. Hail!
ladyimbrium said:
Hail, indeed. A dangerous and necessary call to arms. I dream and my dreams are the color of blood. I hear the voices of the dead and damned in the wind, muttering their outrage in obscene tongues. When I sleep I wonder if I will wake. When I wake, I wonder for how long. There is a heaviness in the air and a hungry growl deep in the Earth’s throat- violence and doom and death and destruction. Enemies at the gate. Fear and Terror wait with bated breath for just one- it will only take one- to strike back as the ancient laws dictate. The gods of blood are waiting for their feast.
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Aubs Tea said:
This whole thing saddens me. The whole fucking mess.
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sylvanfox said:
Did we aid them in installing the government they wanted or did we try to put in a puppet regime (actually, it seems like even our regime is a puppet one) like we do everywhere?
Either way, if that is somehow the case, they ought to just say it. If you’re going to announce that they attacked the US over a movie, you should be hitting them back.
I’d like for them to do something about this, but I know exactly what they would choose to do about it, if anything…. Another war that drags out, over 10 years long. Right now they’re too busy trying to muster support for a war with Iran to bother with retribution for a bunch of middling-level politicians and soldiers who simply don’t matter (to them).
They want to fight Iran BAD. I don’t know why, exactly. It seems kind of funny to me. I get paid to take political surveys sometimes, and I keep getting ones that say stuff like “Do you think the US should make a pre-emptive strike on Iran?” and, even worse, “Under what circumstances would you consider an attack on Iran justified?”
Come to think of it, I wouldn’t be surprised if, a week or two from now, they hearken back to Iran’s attacks on British embassies and claim that they have evidence that Iran, not Egypt, is behind the attacks, and suddenly become a hell of a lot more militant.
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Lucius Svartwulf said:
Don’t know about the rest of your response (though I’m pretty sure Obama doesn’t want to fight Iran. If he did, he would have bloody well done it and stood up for all those trying to get democracy in Iran, rather than letting them be crushed).
That said, what I do know that it wasn’t a puppet regime over in Libya. What happened this last round was that the US backed the Islamists (some of whom we actually fought in Afghanistan the week before) to get rid of Qaddafi (or however you spell his name. Those Islamists who killed him and took over to run Libya weren’t a puppet government of us. If there’s any government over there, the US has no control over it.
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sylvanfox said:
If it’s not their government or any particular organization who made this attack (and the news called it a “mob”), then who do we declare war on?
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sylvanfox said:
I doubt they will attack unless they put some real name to it. I haven’t heard them name any organization behind the attack. For 911, they at least had Al Qaeda, a coherent group, to blame. But if, as portrayed in the news, it was just a mob of random people, then declaring war on Egypt might not be our best move.
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Lucius Svartwulf said:
Considering the “mob” had something like rocket propelled grenades I question the whole “random mob” idea.
As for who we declare war on? Part of me wants to declare war on the entire populace. I realize, however, this is an unrealistic (and bloodthirsty) idea.
More realistically, we could just get whatever video footage there is (I’m sure the embassies have cameras about for security) from both our side and theirs (they bloody well took pictures of them raping and murdering our Ambassador). From there we get the ids of all those involved in the taking of the embassy and the murder of our people.
And then we hunt them down and slaughter them like pigs.
After all, if the Israelis could do that back in the 80’s for their Olympic team, I think it’s the least we could do here in the 10’s for our ambassador.
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sylvanfox said:
I could hope that they are working on that. Perhaps they are, and they don’t say so because they don’t want the perps to flee…. but I seriously doubt it.
What are the limits on strikes and actions conducted by the President? I know he can’t declare war, and that he can order some stuff, but doesn’t somebody have to approve of that eventually?
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Lucius Svartwulf said:
I think the Pres needs congress to fully declare war (not that it hasn’t stopped a few before). I don’t know fully what other actions he can take.
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