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I’m gonna start it this off with a quote from an article titled “The Rantin’ Raven: This is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things.”
Think about that: The very people who have the most to offer the Craft are giving up because they can no longer tolerate what we’ve become. We’re no longer magicians and ritualists, we’re bickering, petty cliques and political factions. We’ve become so obsessed with the outer face of Wicca we’ve forgotten to nurture its heart or tend its fires. We’re trying so hard to be current and progressive that we’re pushing out those who have spent their lives preserving and practicing the essence of Wicca. And so all that knowledge is being lost. A way of life is being lost.
I touched on this a bit in my previous post. There is, right now, basically two visions for the future of Paganism.
- Paganism as a united group.
- Pagan religions as their own groups.
I talked about a guy named Sam Webster, who has been working to build a united paganism (primarily using existing systems in the world). There’s been a lot of talk about Rhyd and Gods & Radicals, who seem to be pushing for a united paganism (built on the ashes of existing systems in the world). And I talked about something else I had been seeing, the dissolution of Paganism into various unique religions.
The thing with a united paganism is that as good as it sounds in a world where minority groups only get things done by having a unified front, is that it appeals to the lowest common demonstrator (which is also usually the whiniest one too). Anyone who is different from that LCD tends to at best get silenced, and at worst get pruned.
Rhyd, in a former life protesting this fact, sums it up well.
Fuck. With a legislative body, we could make rules on who gets to call themselves a Pagan! No more Atheo-Pagans or Christo-Pagans or Naturalist-Polytheists. We could have rules people have to obey about claiming Wiccan identification, or Feri/Faery, or perhaps an entire testing apparatus to verify someone who claims to be married to Loki or have a direct line to Dionysos isn’t just writing masturbatory fan-fic. No more racialist Heathens or fluffy-bunny woo-witches; no more Otherkin or Otherfaith or Other-anything except what we name as true and accepted.
So you can pretty much say goodbye to unique Pagan religions like the various Heathen faiths, Wicca, Cultus Deorum, Druidism, and so forth in all but name. Sure, there might be people who identify as those things as part of their Paganism, but they would not be their paganism. Their “Pagan” identity would have to rule over all.
And there’s a lot of pagans like that out there. For the last several decades, a very homogenized Paganism has been the norm. There’s always been outliers, distinct paths all their own, but they have not been the norm. But now those “outliers” are starting to become the norm. Heathenism is one of the fastest growing branches in Paganism as I understand it, and in Heathenism it is the Folkish ways that grow fastest. The Rise of many more reconstruction based religions from all over is a sign too. The fact that they tend to be the fastest growing parts of Paganism is another sign.
At the same time though as the Raven article points out, so many elders in so many traditions are pulling out and going solitary. Mainly by those pushing for a more progressively minded Paganism (like G&R), who attack people for hierarchies, traditions, and “problematic” beliefs. Heck, Folkism really has become a “solitary” religion, cutting itself off from Paganism at large because of that attitude. More and more elders from so many paths are doing the same. Heck, part of the reason I never stopped being a solitary was partially because of this issue.
This isn’t just one person leaving British Traditional Wicca. This is the wholesale loss of a generation of trained, dedicated teachers, coven-leaders, and occultists. They can’t even publish because they don’t want to deal with the attack mentality so prevalent today. And they shouldn’t have to. When I suggested it to my friend, they said, “Ugh. Writing a book as one of the spiritual inheritors of [well-known Elder’s] lineage is just asking for trouble from both the upline and the rest of the Wicca.”
Now, ever since the original “Confronting” Post by Gods & Radicals, we’re having a big conversation in Paganism as a whole. Who gets to decide what is and isn’t good Paganism. Who gets to have the leading voice, the Marxists or the anti-Marxists. People like Krasskova have started writing articles about how interconnected and incestuous the Marxists’ side of things are, how embedded they are in so many of our Pagan institutions. You’ve had people like me and Joe from Upsal taking down their rationalizations for jokes with dank memes and sharp words.
But I’m starting to wonder if we aren’t playing the false game. We’re playing politics with our religions and playing politics to preserve our religions and playing with politics to change the religions of others, depending on which side you’re on. But as much as Bellona urges me on for blood, the lessions of my wife Hela stay with me. And these lessons i think give me the answer to Raven’s ending questions.
So now that I’ve whined for three hundred words, I put this out there: What can we do to stop Elder Flight? What can we do to keep our Traditions from being lost? Or is it too late? Seriously, I’m asking for suggestions, because I’ve got bupkis.
And the answer is simple, and most people are not going to like it.
You’re gonna have to go “Folkish.”
Now, before everyone gets mad, I don’t actually mean everyone has to become a Folkish Heathen. That really would defeat the point of trying to preserve the traditions whose elders are fleeing. No I mean you’re going to have to do as the Folkish do.
- Get back to your roots.
If you’re an initiatory Wiccan tradition, this means you scrub the booksales, the tours, the mass covens. You go back to initiations, individual by individual. You try people out, you test them, you see if they’re willing to keep to your orthodoxy and orthopraxy. If they show signs of being “progressively” minded or wanting to change the teaching of your faith, you kick them out. You make it take decades, not years, to rise in power and position and knowledge. And sure, eventually you can get to the point where you can have hundreds of people in your coven, but only a few, trusted people know all the secrets and hold all the power, and those who advocate for something different get shunned out.
If you’re any other path, you do the same. You fix your dogma and you refuse to let it change. You do this for your path, and your path alone. You don’t give a shit about anyone else’s path, and you don’t give a shit what anyone else thinks about your Path. And if you think this doesn’t work, I will point out that Folkish Heathenism is the Fastest Growing Pagan path out there. And it’s not because of Trump, or white nationalism, it’s because it clearly states “This is what we are, this is what we believe, and if you don’t like it, fuck off.”
Give your elders the power to say “fuck off” and back them, and you’ll find your elders will fight instead of flight.
2. Ignore the Paganism of others.
One of the things that is both surprising, and comforting about Folkism in Heathenism is they literally give no fucks about what anyone says about them. Sure, you have a few bloggers who do PR and punt about those who say bad things, but the average Folkish heathen is focused on their religion and their religion alone. They might fight with other heathens, but when it comes to anyone outside of heathenism…no fucks are given. They don’t care if the Progressives think they’re racists, or the Dianics think they’re misogynists, or anything.
And that’s what you’re going to have to do too. Instead of focusing on “interfaith” work, tell that stuff to fuck off and focus on “yourfaith” work.
I’ll give a good example of how this changes things. In Heathenism, there’s two big organizations, the AFA and the Troth. Both have roughly the same membership (I think the AFA is a bit bigger and growing faster), but they have roughly the same collective wealth between them. Now, reading Upsal’s blog, I found an article about how the Troth was struggling to get funds to send some of their people to a Pagan convention, but the AFA has just complete most of the work to finish building their first Hof, or temple.
By focusing on your path alone, you can accomplish much more.
This is not to say all interfaith work is bad, but leave that to your elders, no the average worshiper. And my advice to Elders is “keep it to discussions.” Have friendships with elders of other paths. but don’t plan big sweeping projects or other things that can leave you open to the dicatons of another path. The best interfaith work is tea in a cafe, or emails between friends. If you want to have conventions and worships…do those in your own path, to find the talented and the wise, and make yourselves stronger.
But at the same time, it will insulate you from the slings and arrows of those who want to control you by vilifying you. If you pay no attention to their words, their words have no power over you.
3. Know your Orthodoxy
On an objective level, there is no one right ideology out there. However, in our various Pagan religions, most of us have found ideologies that we like and can agree with by and large. Subjectively, these ideology are “right” to us that believe in them.
I’ve talked in a number of posts about how we should not promulgate the concept of “wrongthink” in Paganism. As an umbrella, this is true. Obejctively, there should never be “wrongthink.” However, as is easily demonstrated, those with political agendas who desire to reshape pagan religions into their “ideal” rather than live by the ideals of said religions are out there and will do anything to tear down what your path holds as true to replace with what they think is “right.”
Which means you, as a believer of whatever path you practice, need to know what is the Orthodoxy of your religion, and be prepared to either ignore when someone tries to speak against it, or remove them when they try to destroy it. I know that probably sounds horrible to a lot of people, and a lot of paths as you get into the ancient orthodoxy may run counter to modern “politically correct” ideals, but that’s how it’s going to have to be. If you want to preserve your traditions…you have to know and enforce those traditions and belief as morally right and undeniable within your religion. You will have to carefully remove those who try and enforce the “wrongthink” from your traditions. (and then never do that to other pagan paths).
It’s going to be hard. In a lot of ways, you’re going to have to do this to yourselves individual, as you find beliefs you hold that are different from your traditions teachings. You will have to ask yourself, every day, “Is this something I can live with?”
If it is, then adopt it and believe it. If not, well, maybe that tradition isn’t for you. If you cannot affirm the tradition in its entirety, even as a thought experiment, then you cannot preserve it.
Are these three rules perfect? No, there probably needs to be a few more, but I think I’ll stop at those three because they encapsulate what people need to do if they want to preserve their traditions.
They’re going to have to go to the elders who have so long be abused, get down on their knees and say “I’m sorry for what has happened. I am sorry I didn’t do enough to stop it. But let us try again, together, the right way. With respect for you, and knowledge for me.” And elders are going to have to understand that the days of fame and fortune are over…for now. Their best gifts will not earn them money, but can earn the respect and honor, places of privilege within their own religions traditions. And then, down the line, fortunes may come, because people want solidity in their religions, something unique, fulfilling, and immutable. Practice that, preach that, enforce that, and you will find people come to you much more than they ever have to something homogeneous.
Bellona Invicta and Hela Bless
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Hm. I’m uncomfortable with orthodoxy, mostly because regulating people’s thoughts is a slippery slope that has seldom end up well. But I get what you’re saying in that specific groups and traditions need to have clear basics and firmly grounded ideas and practices that constitute their core identity. Which in turn acts as a sort of shopping list anyone can go through to figure out which tradition suits them best or who can join a given group.
Of course, when I say specific groups and traditions, I’m talking about sects sects, sub-sects and even separate lineages within particular sub-sects in the larger Heathen, Hellenic, Roman or Celtic polytheisms. It’s an enormous fragmentation where smaller groups are seen as part of a wider ones based solely on very slim commonalities, be they orthopraxic, orthodox or both. But then again, that’s what you have in Hinduism, too.
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They try to gag us with their damned umbrella. 🙂 There is NO damned umbrella as there is NO damned “pagan” religion. I absolutely despise those words {pagan/paganism}. They really have no meaning — and if certain people are attempting to attach them to a modern synthetic something, then I really have to protest the continued use of these words. For me they certainly do not imply the person is religious in any shape or form. Halstead and many generic neos come to mind here. They are proud of their agnosticism/atheism.
“Orthodoxy” certainly is a very loaded word. For myself, I do believe in the material reality of the individual Gods and all the pantheons. I also know people have a hard time imagining that type of belief. I would not wish to mandate any kind of “theological” belief. However, orthopraxy needs to be maintained at all times. This is what keeps the community together. Knowing that someone in Australia is celebrating the Anthesteria (in the correct Australian season of course) in the way that you would do it in the northern hemisphere is uniting in a far different way than the Christian rota is (liturgical year). It makes no sense to me to ignore the seasons of the festivals. Oh well, that’s just me wandering off the path again.
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Orthodoxy is a loaded term. I will not deny this. However…it’s a term I have loaded into my proverbial cannon for a reason. I’ve got a post about this more fully tomorrow, but here’s the basic idea i’m having.
Orthopraxy (right practice) is not enough. We’ve had orthopraxy for years both in “Paganism” and in society as a whole. And it has done nothing to stop the Marxists from using those “right practices” to further their own ends (much like they accuse the new-right of doing.” We have to have an Orthodoxy to counter what is at its heart, an Orthodoxy of Marx.
This orthodoxy can and will take many forms based on particular paths. IF you have an orthodoxy that values meritocracy, truth, and/or freedom that you do not compromise on…it is still an Orthodoxy, but in holding to that Orthodoxy you can resist easier orthodoxies like Marxism which are unmerocratic, illiberal, and ultimately untruthful. There is nothing wrong with an individual path having its own orthodoxy and enforcing it within that path. It’s only when that orthodoxy is enforced on others outside the bounds of that path that orthodoxy, like government, law, or any other system out there becomes a problem.
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OK. Now I understand what you mean. I was thinking more in terms of the Christian definition of orthodoxy. I certainly believe that there are Orthodoxies which should be maintained, as Dver wrote. I certainly don’t want to include any slippery slopes, theologically speaking, into the religion I practice.
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I think you’re on the right track here. I remember back in the early 2000’s, when I was running a Hellenic org, I had a few strict rules about who could join – hard polytheists, Recon-based, etc. A lot of people balked at that. But I had learned that it was essential to a group getting anything actually *done*, to have at least a few core principles in common, or else you spent all your time arguing about basics. I didn’t try to impose those views on any other group or Hellenism as a whole by any means, but it made sense for that one group. I still feel this is key to the stability and productiveness of any small religious group – and I feel like small religious groups are the best approach, rather than trying to have huge, disparate collections of people who identify as X come together and agree on anything.
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Good stuff. And a direction I’ve been going with in my own projects for some years now. Although I really like Marx, sorry to say! (no, not really). There is no “Pagan religion” and we really need to get over that unitarian stuff.
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As painful as this recent episode has been for individuals and groups I am actually glad it happened. I have been waiting for people who are not extreme right to respond to the authoritarian turn the Pagan Left has taken. I have been very cautious about sharing my spiritual path since I first stepped on it in 1973, back when I had to travel forty miles to an occult bookstore which was in a leaky attic on a shabby street of a ghetto in a forgotten industrial town. What a brave woman that old witch was.
I have watched this terrible turn of events build for about fifteen years and it has made me even more shy about sharing who I am *within* my community while my comfort level with sharing with the larger community has improved. I think this post is right on the money. Finally, because of the childish and ineffective attack on any thought that is not a PC, Marxist, watered down fashion statement, those of us who do not harbor dreams of being the political leaders of lesser men can step forward and declare that we do what we do, think what we think, and believe what we believe because it is a time tested method for both practice and study. It’s not born of hate or greed or any of those other Judeo-Christian deadly sin thingies. It’s just pure and simple practical magic, clear communication with which ever entity you are choosing to contact, and personal ethics that make for a life free of upset and drama.
Unfortunately, it appears that some in the far Left have chosen glamour over magic, authoritarian bull horns pointed at people instead of respectful connection with the gods, and busy days filled with ally forging and sleepless nights filled with paranoia instead of that life that is free of upset and drama.
You are right. The elders won’t leave. Instead, we will step out from the forest like an army of Ents and ask that age old question, “Just who the Hel do you think you are dealing with here?”
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I quote this post extensively here: https://robinclear.wordpress.com/2016/04/24/internet-squabbles/
I hope that’s ok.
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