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It has been my policy on this blog to always deal with the argument and try to avoid attacking anyone directly. Today I am breaking that tradition. I am doing so because, frankly, I am tired and angry, and I feel it must be done.
Before we begin, I will state one of the fundamental Teachings of Hel.
Statement: For a thing to be moral, it must be good or evil for all people. A thing cannot be good when done by one person, and evil when done by another. Humans may decide what is moral in their eyes, but they shall be judged by that morality which they create when the time comes.
Recently, Sarenth Odinsson wrote a post entitled “Cutting Ties, pt. 1” which I reblogged. I do not believe that one can remove reblogged posts, but I have been out of the game for a while (so their words of leaving it up despite their feelings about my words are small and meaningless to me if such a thing remains impossible). Their post was about how they were cutting ties with Galina and her husband over his use of certain symbols tangentially associated with the Nazis, and Galina’s refusal to support Anti-fa and BLM.
I said what I wanted to say about such thing. BLM and Antifa are terrorist ideologies, rooted in Marxism, who have spent the last several months destroying history, private property, assaulting people, costing them their jobs, homes, and even going so far as to murder them. Marxism as an ideology is responsible for over 150 million deaths via genocide and other horrors. When I mentioned these facts, and Sarenth’s response was as follows.
Well, your screed-writing and complete inability to get the point of a carefully crafted statement are yet again on full display.
Antifa is an ideology based on a simple idea: being anti-fascist. There are Marxists who are anti-fascist, and there are liberals, and even conservatives who are anti-fascist. Right now, given the political polarization, a lot of folks are directly supporting fascism.
That you cannot even conceive of a person being anti-fascist without being pro-communist is a limitation of you and your ideology, not mine.George Floyd’s criminal status has nothing to do with the summary execution at the hands of police. I am disgusted by anyone who has defended his death, who brings up his past as though summary execution is or was ever warranted.
Further, if you are so disgusted by what I have written? Stay on your own blog and off of mine. I have tolerated you in the past because every time you put hands to keys you simply unveil another layer of odious hate and vile words. It is clear you are not, and have never been for dialogue. You want someone to support your far-right views, and you can find that on your own on your own site.
It has been my quiet policy to only remove spam. At this point your rhetoric is in the same place. I will leave your reblog up, but anything else from you is no longer welcome.
Call it a “screed” if you want, Sarenth, but I fully got the point of your “carefully crafted” statement. And if my statements are long and tedious, then yours are hypocritical and immoral. So I am going to be long and tedious in pointing out why because I want it to be very, very fucking clear why you are without honor or morality.
Antifa is an ideology based on a simple idea: being anti-fascist. There are Marxists who are anti-fascist, and there are liberals, and even conservatives who are anti-fascist. Right now, given the political polarization, a lot of folks are directly supporting fascism.
That you cannot even conceive of a person being anti-fascist without being pro-communist is a limitation of you and your ideology, not mine.
The first recorded group of “anti-fascists” was the Antifaschistische Aktion according to wikipedia. It was started by members of the German Communist Party. It was the inspiration for all following Anti-Fa groups, including the logo used by Anti-fa actors here in the USA and Europe.
Given your “justification” for calling out Sannion’s use of the Sonnenrad, specifically the “The Wewelsburg Castle design” is literally “THE NAZIS CREATED IT!” Then by your own logic and standards, any and all Antifa can, do, and should, be held under the same banner as the Communist Antifaschistische Aktion. In which case by your own logic and standards, they are intrinsically linked to the 150 million dead at the hands of communism.
But let’s take this one step further, because I love my “screeds.” By your statement, Marxists, Liberals, and Conservatives can all be Anti-Fascist because they oppose Fascism. Well, if we look a little bit back in history to the formation of the “fascists” we can see that not only fascists, but liberals and conservatives could be “Fascist” because fascism formed in large part as a counter response to Marxist Communism. In fact, many of the organizations that would go on to join the National Socialists (which came from all walks of life) got their start in opposition to Communism and the horrific mass murders the Communists were performing. Many of these organizations fought against a Communist Revolution in Germany in 1918, for fear that the horrific slaughter that was taking over the nation formerly known as Russia would then be enacted in Germany! Anti-fa’s founding as a counter to Fascism was, very literally, a response to being denied the ability to mass murder in the name of Marx. “How dare these evil fascists refuse to let us genocide them!”
By Sarenth’s logic, if “anti-fascism is the opposite of fascism,” then “fascism is the opposition of communism.” Again, Communism has killed over 150 million people. If it is moral to oppose Fascism for its genocides, then it is certainly moral to oppose Communism with is drastically higher body count.
Given the fact that today’s Anti-fa insist anyone who doesn’t bow to them is a Fascist, rabidly support the complete destruction of our civilization and its culture, and are willing to use large scale violence and terrorism to achieve their ends…is it any wonder “fascism” is growing?
I could go further, but this post is about Sarenth and their complete lack of actual morality, so we’re using Sarenth’s own moral positions.
Statement: Sannion is bad for using a symbol created by the Nazis. Therefore, in using a symbol created by Marxists, anti-fa must also be bad. This is Sarenth’s logic.
Conclusion: Sarenth is a flaming hypocrite because they view Anti-fa as good, its symbols as good, and its desires as good, despite being born from something Sarenth considers “evil” namely an ideology responsible for mass murder.
George Floyd’s criminal status has nothing to do with the summary execution at the hands of police. I am disgusted by anyone who has defended his death, who brings up his past as though summary execution is or was ever warranted.
George Floyd was not “summarily executed” by the police. He died, as far as I can tell, due to a heart attack, brought on by a) chronic health conditions, b) several controlled substances, and c) resisting arrest to such a degree that it took four fucking police officers to hold him down. Yes, the officers were negligent, but I would not call it an “execution.”
I first wish to state that I am not defending his death. That being said, I am not surprised by it either. If a drunk man falls off a cliff, I do not claim the cliff executed him, nor do I defend his death as some how moral. As a Heathen, it is in our faith that the day of one’s death was determined long ago. Floyd could have hid in a hole if he wished, it would not have made his life last any longer than it did. Frankly, I wish he had, given the innocent lives killed in his name.
That being said, I also believe that if you step on the road to violence, violence will find you, and George Floyd was a violent man, no matter how much people like Sarenth desire to make him some blemish-free saint. He robbed, he threatened violence upon the innocent, he abandoned his children. He was not, by any real definition, a moral man, and personally I do not weep for his death.
I certainly do not think his death is any sort of justification for the rampant violence and murders that have been carried out by BLM and Anti-fa in their protests. However, I want you to keep in mind Sarenth’s words here, because they are important.
Recently, a woman by the name of Jessica Doty Witaker was murdered by BLM protestors. Her crime? As they were protesting, she stated “All Lives Matter.” They then threatened her, and when she managed to get away, proceeded to wait in ambush and shoot her, including in the head, killing her. That is a summary execution, Sarenth, for your information.
What was Sarenth’s response to my mentioning this murder by organizations they publicly and wholeheartedly support?
Silence.
What was Sarenths’ response to my mentioning that BLM supporters, rather than condemning this murder, in fact cheered and supported it, going so far as to say “now her son knows not what to say!” (He’s 3, by the way).
Silence.
What does Sarenth have to say about all the other people murdered by BLM and Anti-fa in the last few months, including pillars of their community, and children? A number not truly known, but pushing at least 30 people?
Silence.
Apparently, Sarenth believes that a history of violence, crime, and drugs does not justify dying in the custody of the police, but given that Sarenth is supporting BLM completely, and BLM has stated that “Silence is Consent,” I can only conclude that Sarenth not only consents to these murders, they fully support them and feel they are justified!
No doubt Sarenth will deny this, but twice they have had the chance to condemn these actions (both in the original post and in their response to my reblog), not to mention one of their reasons for “cutting ties with Galina and San” is because both of them have condemned these murders! So I am not inclined to believe any pathetic protestations that dribble from their mouth like slop from the jaws of a pig! Sarenth clearly has more sympathy for criminals than innocent, law abiding citizens.
Statment: If George Floyd’s death was unjustified despite a history of violence, then all the innocent people murdered by BLM and Anti-fa are also unjustified. Yet Sarenth supports these deaths, and views Galina as evil for calling them out as “defaming blm.”
Conclusion: Sarenth’s support of BLM and Anti-fa’s murders makes them a giant flaming fucking hypocrite.
Further, if you are so disgusted by what I have written? Stay on your own blog and off of mine. I have tolerated you in the past because every time you put hands to keys you simply unveil another layer of odious hate and vile words. It is clear you are not, and have never been for dialogue. You want someone to support your far-right views, and you can find that on your own on your own site.
It has been my quiet policy to only remove spam. At this point your rhetoric is in the same place. I will leave your reblog up, but anything else from you is no longer welcome.
And here we get to why I am writing this on my own blog rather than responding to Sarenth on theirs. Sarenth claims that I have no interest in dialogue, and therefor that justifies silencing me as “spam.”
Sarenth, do not pretend you are interested in “dialogue,” because we all know that isn’t the case. You have no counter for my argument, I am holding you to your own morality, to which you clearly have no defense. You have legislated that using the symbols of genocidal murderers is wrong, yet you defend and support those that use them. You claim that previous actions do not justify deaths, yet you treat deaths as justified for the previous action of daring not to support those you stand beside. You raise up a criminal as a victim, and yet silence the victims of criminals.
If my words are vile, it is only because I speak your own words plainly. And if my hatred is odious to you, then good. Good! For what I hate most is what you stand for, rank, moral hypocrisy that justifies your monstrous deeds while bitching endlessly that others are monsters for their deeds.
When Anti-fa and BLM have been called out, this is Sarenth’s response:
Calling anti-fascists fascists is non-sensical. It is literally the opposite of what they are.
There is no singular Black Lives Matter organization. There are a series of them, just as there are antifascist organization, and they tend to be regionally based rather than united under a single banner, unlike, again, The Proud Boys, 3%ers, militia groups, and the Boogaloo Boys.
It is highly debatable on if there is or is not a singular “Black Lives Matter” organization, but for the sake of giving Sarenth even the smallest chance, I will play along.
Somehow, despite lacking “national, unified organization” BLM and Anti-fa have managed to get near universal support by the media and many local and state governments. In Seattle, they were basically given their own country to run for weeks, and damn all the innocent people who were trapped inside. Even as BLM was murdering people, the media and government insisted that these were “peaceful protests.”
Now, I can’t speak with authority on most of the groups Sarenth listed to counter this, but I do know a bit of the Proud Boys. They were an organization that started back during an earlier round of Anti-Fa and BLM violence with the express purpose of defending protestors from said organizations’ violence. Many of their members have been arrested, charged with crimes, and sent to jail…even when there was video evidence proving that they started their actions in Self Defense.
So, let’s look at this. BLM claims that they are an organization/ideology whose purpose is to defend black lives from police violence. The Proud Boys were an organization whose purpose was to defend people from violence anti-fa/blm violence. Both groups used violence in the name of self defense. We will be generous and ignore the fact that TPB actually used violence against violent people, where as BLM has used violence against innocent people, because why not give Sarenth even more rope to hang themselves.
Statement: What is moral for one is moral for all. If it is moral for BLM to use violence and murder to further their ends, then violence and murder is a moral tool.
Conclusion: Sarenth feels that TPB and others using violence is evil, yet stands in joyous, silent consent with the violence used by BLM, which makes them a giant fucking hypocrite.
So yes, Sarenth is right about one thing. I have no interest in “Debate.” To quote a Molyneux meme, “The time for Arguments has passed.” I spent years debating people on this blog. I debated those who felt we should strip the Gods from our Faith. I debated those who felt we should remove “fascism” from our religions and replace it with Marxism. I have argued with many over the years, rending their words apart and mocking their power. And you know what I have learned?
There are no debates. None of them ever changed their tune. None of them ever altered their positions. I told myself that I was doing it not for them, but for all those who watched, silent, afraid, as what they believed was attacked and destroyed. That I was one of the few who stood up and protected them. The Son of Hel, defender of the dishonored.
Then, for personal reasons, I could do that no more. It cost me my job, it cost me friends. My health has declined such that I rarely have the strength to stand, much less fight, as my Goddess uses me as a vessel for her power, a living sacrifice, in a desperate attempt to do what must be done to protect the souls of our dead. I could no longer protect the living, so I have kept to my living grave.
I lay here, in my straw bed, waiting for my Goddess to release me, to take me home and sit me at her right hand at the high table. To love me till Ragnarok and beyond, and I watch as the living world burns at the hands of hypocrites like Sarenth, dogs without honor, who slaughter and feast on the blood of the innocent, the faithful, the kin. I lay here and I rage, rage against all that I see, because criminals are made heroes and innocents are made villains. The path to Helheim lies littered with the innocent, dishonored dead, sent there by people like Sarenth Odinsson!
Sarenth wishes to speak of “odious hate,” well there is no more odious a hatred than likes in the hearts of Sarenth and those they support! None so vile as them! May Nidhoggr take them all in his jaws and rend their souls to smithereens!
I could forgive, I could tolerate, if there were some honest morality in them. If Sarenth supported Anti-fa, but also supported Sannion, I could stay my temper. If Sarenth gave the same rights to use violence to the Proud Boys that they eagerly give to BLM, my rage might be sated. If they had a singular, moral truth to abide that they legislated for all, My Goddess might not sit in judgment upon them when at last Sarenth comes to the halls of Helheim.
But Sarenth does not. Sarenth holds that violence is good when done by those they support, and evil when done by those they do not. Sarenth holds that symbols used by those who slaughter millions should be cast aside, but not those that slaughter hundreds of millions! Sarenth has no morals. Sarenth is a hypocrite. And no immoral hypocrite has any honor.
So this is my screed against you, Sarenth Odinsson. By your own hand, by your own morals, are you condemned before the High Table of Hel. By the teachings of the Goddess of Death I name you honorless and unwelcomed. Pray, pray that Odin or some other force takes you upon your death, for if you should come to the Halls of My Goddess you will find no welcome there, no peace or mercy shall be for you. These are my words of “Odious, Vile, Right-Wing Hate,” given to me by my Goddess.
I hope you choke on them. I hope they fill you with hatred, and taste of bile in your throat. I hope they drive you to even greater heights of hypocrisy so you damn yourself even harder than you already have, you honorless vermin. Cut your ties with any an all. Our faiths will be stronger without your putrid, immoral hypocrisy and it comforts me that you shall never know the peace of my Goddess’s realm.
These are the words of Svartwulf of Helheim, beloved of Hel.
To all others, who would walk a moral path, to have honor even as they are dishonored, whatever those morals might be,
Hela Bless
Read the Coroner’s Report on the George Floyd death
Read FACTS not RUMORS
Floyd had NO bruise/injury to neck that would substantiate the cop put pressure there to cause suffocation
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…and PS
I read that BLM has a school curriculum to be taught in public schools this fall to teach our kids to be Marxist
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It has been shocking to see for me the development and acceptance of Marxism over the 12 years I have been a polytheist. The fact that people will now break friendships and oaths for the fact someone wont support mindlessly the mass murdering Marxist ideologie which is the backbone of Antifa or BLM is deeply troubling. I hope more people within the different polytheist traditions start to speak up on this, otherwise we are in for a very rough ride in the future for our traditions.
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